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Yesterday I published “How to Book a RTW Trip in 2015. Use These Underpriced Awards Around the World,” which I am very proud of. Take a look if you’re an adventurer who wants to take a BIG trip. In the comments, John Domingo asked about getting between South America and Australia.
The best flights to get between South America and Australia/New Zealand are the direct flights on LAN Airlines and Qantas, booked with American Airlines miles.
Qantas flies directly from Sydney to Santiago. LAN flies the same route but breaks it up with a layover in each direction in Auckland. LAN has the rights to carry passengers on any segment or the whole route. Between Australia/New Zealand and Southern South America, American Airlines charges:
- 37,500 miles one way in economy
- 50,000 miles one way in Business Class
- no one serves the route with First Class
- American doesn’t collect fuel surcharges on either airline, just minimal government taxes
Award space is excellent on the Qantas flights in economy, though Business Class award space is super rare. Award space is rarer on the Auckland <-> Santiago LAN longhaul, but excellent on the Sydney <-> Auckland portion.
What is the Business Class Product on These Routes?
Business is such a tiny premium over the economy price on this route that it’s the obvious choice if you can find award space.
Qantas flies its 747 on its Sydney <-> Santiago route. According to Seat Guru, the Business Class is in the nose and upper deck and is fully flat. Here’s my review of Qantas Business Class on the A380.
LAN flies its 787 Dreamliner from Santiago to Auckland to Sydney.
The LAN Dreamliner has fully flat beds in Business Class. Here is a video about the LAN Dreamliner in Spanish.
How to Search Award Space
Qantas award space can be searched right on aa.com. Here’s how.
LAN award space is not searchable on aa.com. Search it on ba.com. Any space you see there should be bookable with American Airlines miles.
What Is the Award Space Picture?
Award space is excellent between Sydney and Santiago on the direct Qantas flight in economy for most of the next 11 months, especially next Southern Hemisphere summer.
The flight operates four days per week, and for stretches of the year, award space is available on all four weekly flights in economy.
Even over Christmas and New Year, the height of the tourist season in early summer, there is award space.
Unfortunately Business Class award space almost doesn’t exist. There is only one award seat in Business Class between Sydney and Santiago for the next 11 months, July 10.
LAN flies its route seven days a week, but with worse award space than Qantas. I searched the next month from Santiago to Auckland and found only one award seat in Business Class and none in economy.
Then I searched all of October 2015 and found just three days with economy award space and zero with Business Class.
February 2016, a time I’d rather fly the route, has better award space, on eight days with LAN.
The above images just look at the longhaul from Santiago to Auckland. The plane continues to Sydney, and you can book just the trans-Tasman hop. Award space here is excellent. Almost every day has some award space on the route.
Oddly some of the award space is in First Class. I can’t even figure out what that mistake represents because the LAN 787 has only economy and Business, no third cabin at all (not First, not Premium Economy.)
Connections
As long as your connection follows the published-fare rule, you can start your trip anywhere in Australia/New Zealand and end anywhere in Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, or Bolivia for the same number of miles. Or vice versa.
It was easy on aa.com to pull up Perth to Santiago awards for 37,500 miles…
…or Auckland to Santiago awards for the same price.If you want to use LAN flights intra-South America, you’ll have to search that award space on ba.com.
How to Book
If all your legs were searchable on aa.com (ie all Qantas flights), book right there.
If one or more of your legs is not searchable on aa.com (ie LAN flights), note the date, cabin, and flight number of all the award space you find on aa.com and ba.com, and call American Airlines at 800-882-8880 to book. Give the agent that information, and book with no phone fee.
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Bottom Line
The only two flights between Australia/New Zealand and South America are flown by American Airlines partners, so American Airlines miles rule this part of a possible RTW trip.
Award space is good-to-excellent in economy and extremely rare in flat bed Business Class, which at only 12,500 miles extra is a steal if you do find space.
You can start the award anywhere in Southern South America and end it anywhere in Australia or New Zealand for the same number of miles. You’re only on the hook for government taxes, not fuel surcharges or a phone booking fee.
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Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for
No problem!
Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for
No problem!
Scott-Yours is the best source of travel information. i’m glad we came across it and met you at the Thai restaurant! We’ve been around the world with your info and now will combine our Inguazu trip with New Zealand. Another two in one trip. Just wanted to tell you how much we value your site! Keep up the good work.
Also the Bergman’s are covering the world in the last year. Four continents and actually was at the same site my daughter was at the same time. Too bad they didn’t meet prior! It’s a Small World…even smaller now that we follow your site!
Thank you very much! Enjoy those upcoming trips!
Scott-Yours is the best source of travel information. i’m glad we came across it and met you at the Thai restaurant! We’ve been around the world with your info and now will combine our Inguazu trip with New Zealand. Another two in one trip. Just wanted to tell you how much we value your site! Keep up the good work.
Also the Bergman’s are covering the world in the last year. Four continents and actually was at the same site my daughter was at the same time. Too bad they didn’t meet prior! It’s a Small World…even smaller now that we follow your site!
Thank you very much! Enjoy those upcoming trips!
Hey Scott! FYI, Air New Zealand will start flying Auckland-Buenos Aires starting in December. They’ve already started selling tickets, but don’t know about the award tickets situation.
Cheers!
Martin.
Great! I’ll check it out.
Doesn’t look like any space in either direction is available yet.
Hey Scott! FYI, Air New Zealand will start flying Auckland-Buenos Aires starting in December. They’ve already started selling tickets, but don’t know about the award tickets situation.
Cheers!
Martin.
Great! I’ll check it out.
Doesn’t look like any space in either direction is available yet.
Are Air NZ award tickets searchable in United.com? Thanks!
Yes, they just offer almost zero award space.
What a shame, really. Would be nice to fly that route, specially with Air New Zealand’s new 787-900, which is a beauty.
Maybe they’ll open up award space in the near future 😉
Are Air NZ award tickets searchable in United.com? Thanks!
Yes, they just offer almost zero award space.
What a shame, really. Would be nice to fly that route, specially with Air New Zealand’s new 787-900, which is a beauty.
Maybe they’ll open up award space in the near future 😉
My wife and I are flying business class on the LAN flight from SCL to SYD the end of July as part of a 105 day RTW! We are leaving on this Tuesday. LAS-DFW-LON-FCO,ZRH-LCY,LHR-CPT-JNB-VFA-JNB-GRU-EZE-SCL-AKL-MEL-ASP-AYQ-ASP-SYD-CHC-SYD-BKK-HKG-LAX-PHX-LAS Got to love the miles and points game!!!
That will be fantastic. Every continent!
Can’t hardly believe this trip is near . All the long hauls are in either First or Biz Class! A lot of the Hotels are booked with points or free CC nights.
My wife and I are flying business class on the LAN flight from SCL to SYD the end of July as part of a 105 day RTW! We are leaving on this Tuesday. LAS-DFW-LON-FCO,ZRH-LCY,LHR-CPT-JNB-VFA-JNB-GRU-EZE-SCL-AKL-MEL-ASP-AYQ-ASP-SYD-CHC-SYD-BKK-HKG-LAX-PHX-LAS Got to love the miles and points game!!!
That will be fantastic. Every continent!
Can’t hardly believe this trip is near . All the long hauls are in either First or Biz Class! A lot of the Hotels are booked with points or free CC nights.
But the Qantas charges so much tax, it’s worse than British Airways coming out of London! Do you know why Air New Zealand NEVER has any availability from Honolulu-Sydney even though my Thai Airways points offers the best value at only 50,000 points? Please share your thoughts and secrets. Mahalo!
They just don’t release availability. There’s nothing we can do in that case.
Taxes are equal for all carriers, but coming out of London, the taxes vary by distance and cabin.
But the Qantas charges so much tax, it’s worse than British Airways coming out of London! Do you know why Air New Zealand NEVER has any availability from Honolulu-Sydney even though my Thai Airways points offers the best value at only 50,000 points? Please share your thoughts and secrets. Mahalo!
They just don’t release availability. There’s nothing we can do in that case.
Taxes are equal for all carriers, but coming out of London, the taxes vary by distance and cabin.
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