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Last month, I got an interesting email from reader Ed that started:
Scott,
Please consider if this is viable, albeit challenging to book:
[UA] DCA-BOS-YYZ-ORD-CLE-EWR // EWR-ZRH-IST, IST-IAD
The answer is yes it is possible, and what it means is that you can add a free circle trip onto roundtrip international United awards.
Hopefully readers of this blog are well acquainted with Free Oneways on United Awards, the most-read post I’ve written.
The central idea of free oneways is to take your free stopover at your home airport, then start a second trip from there on the same award. Ed combined that idea with the idea that on international awards you can stop at any airport–in the United States or abroad–for up to 24 hours without the layover counting as a stopover.
Let me give an example with screenshots to illustrate what combining this idea creates: a free circle trip before or after an international United award.
The base trip that I’ll be adding a circle trip to is a roundtrip business class award between Los Angeles and Sydney.
Each way between the US and Australia in business class is 67,500 miles, so this award goes for 135k miles and $131.
Just like with a free oneway, instead of ending my award in Los Angeles at my home airport, I will use my one stopover at my home airport and continue the award at a later date.
Unlike a free oneway, say LAX to Boston, I want to take a circle trip, going from LAX to many destinations and ultimately returning to Los Angeles.
There are two major restrictions on the circle trip.
- We can spend a maximum of 23:59 in each city. A layover of 24+ hours would be a second stopover, since our first is in Los Angeles upon returning from Sydney.
- The total routing of the entire return can only exceed United’s Maximum Permitted Mileage (MPM)–the maximum distance allowed on paid fares between two cities–for SYD-LAX by 15%.
United will see the real return and the entire circle trip as the return leg of a roundtrip award. That means we’ll have to add the SYD-LAX leg to the circle trip legs to figure out the length or our return.
That length can only exceed United’s Maximum Permitted mileage for the Sydney to LAX–the return’s origin to the return’s destination–by 15%. If it exceeds the MPM by more than that, the routing is invalid.
So to know how big of a circle I could make, I checked the MPM from Sydney to LAX.
Since I can exceed 8,994 miles by 15%, I can fly 10,343 miles total. Sydney to LAX direct is only 7,488 miles, so I can make a nice circle.
Playing around with the Great Circle Mapper and considering United and US Airways’ hubs, I came up with the following trip: LAX to San Fran to Salt Lake City to Denver to Phoenix to Burbank.
This trip tacked on to SYD-LAX still totals only 9,786, well under the maximum possible length.
I searched availability on United.com to find segments that took off less than 24 hours after the previous one landed. Since the return from Australia is in business class, we are entitled to domestic first class on all legs, but I couldn’t find low-miles-price first class for all segments.
Mixing and matching some first class segments with some economy class, I found availability and called United to piece it together.
I told the agent: “I want to book a trip to Australia. I have the exact flights picked out.” For each flight, I read the date, flight number, cities, and cabin. I never used the words “stopover,” “free oneway,” or “circle trip.” Why confuse them?
The agent added all the segments together without comment. He told me the price was 135k United miles and $143.87. That’s the same amount of miles and $12.57 more than the pure roundtrip between LAX and Sydney I priced out earlier.
With the confirmation number he gave me, I was able to see the reservation and confirm the price online.
The one thing you may notice about this trip is that the return is to Burbank, not LAX where the circle trip began. Not everyone lives in an area served by multiple airports, so I also checked whether I could make a pure circle back to LAX.
I called United back to change the last segment to PHX-LAX, and the price did not change. This is probably not a surprise to those who read my Free Oneways on United Awards post closely. Several of the examples in that post transited the same airport twice.
Hopefully I’ve explained the process and rules for adding a free circle trip to a roundtrip international United award, but I’ll try to anticipate some questions you may have.
This looks awful. Who would voluntarily fly this?
Air-travel enthusiasts, baseball-stadium enthusiasts, people who have friends in many cities with whom they want to have one dinner. I’m not advocating this trip or suggesting it is more valuable than a free oneway.
I’m just breaking the news that this trip is possible. I think it looks like a fun way to travel occasionally.
Is there anything special about Sydney, LAX, the length of the stopover, or anything else that made this possible?
No! Adding a free circle trip is possible on all roundtrip international United awards–except awards wholly within the USA and Canada.
I chose LAX because I live in Los Angeles. I chose Sydney because there is a direct United flight, and I though the MPM might be high enough to allow routing through Asia. (Higher MPM means bigger circles are possible.)
The stopover can be as long as you want it. Just remember that all segments of an award must be flown within one year of the original ticketing.
This trick will work even better for people on the east coast, where cities are much closer together than out here on the west coast. Shorter distances means more cities can be seen on the circle.
Do all segments have to be direct like in the example?
No, I chose direct flights in the example because it’s easier to see what this circle-trip trick can do. If you are adding connecting flights, remember that every segment counts toward your mileage limit, so direct flights are better.
You’ve posted about Free Oneways on United Award to Hawaii. Can I add a free circle trip to awards to Hawaii?
I’ll look into it. It will depend on whether layovers on those awards can be up to 24 hours like on international awards or whether they can only be up to four hours like on domestic awards.
A circle trip with 3:59 stops in each city definitely seems useless.
Can I book something like this online?
Definitely not. United.com can barely book a free oneway.
Must I pay the $25 per ticket phone fee then?
You can definitely avoid the phone fee. Just reserve one or more segments online then call up to add the rest and ticket. More details on my United-phone-hold trick, which saves $25 per passenger, can be found in this post.
Are there any variations to this trick?
Ed’s email is actually different than what I tested. He envisioned beginning in Washington, DC, circling around to Newark, flying to Europe, and returning to Washington DC.
For a DC flyer, that would mean combining the circle trip with the Europe trip and taking a stopover in Newark. The lesson here is that if you eschew the stopover at your home airport that separates the circle trip and main trip in my screen-shotted example, you can take a stopover at any one of the other airports.
That means you can spend more than 24 hours at one of the circle trip cities. Or you can chronologically separate the circle trip and international trip into two vacations. But you can’t do both.
Is this possible on other airlines?
I think it will be possible on the other airlines but less valuable.
Delta and US Airways don’t allow you to exceed MPM by as much as United.
American allows exceeding MPM by 25% and allows a stopover both directions–meaning two circle trips could be added to a roundtrip award or one to a oneway. But stopovers can only be at the North American International Gateway City, so people at small airports can’t use this trick. See The Five Cardinal Rules of American Airlines Awards.
Finally, I want to add that I don’t think I ever would have seen the possibility of adding a free circle trip without Ed’s email. This shows the value of collaboration in the miles community.
If you have a chance to post in FlyerTalk, attend a seminar, or even go to a MileValue dinner, you and everyone else will benefit from the sharing of ideas.
Recap
Combining the rule that international awards allow 24 hour layovers at all airports en route with taking a free stopover at your home airport greatly expands the possibilities of the free oneways available on United awards.
Circle trips can be created that start and end at your home airport, stopping at several cities in between. These awards can be added for free to international United awards.
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Sweet. Great work!
I understand this free stopover is more achievable if you live in major city like LA, NY, Chicago, DC, MIA. I live in TPA and honestly don’t know how to use it practically without double pass through the same airport. For example, if I got to Europe on UA, the only flights from TPA are to IAD/EWR/ORD/IAH. So, when I return back to TPA for “stopover” and want to add free one way anywhere to US, I have to fly again via IAD/EWR/ORD/IAH, which I understand is prohibited (double transit) and will overcome the MPM limit. Am I correct or not?
Double transit isn’t an issue, I’ve done several bookings where I transit through IAH both ways, while I live in AUS. MPM might not be much of an issue, and you can even add a one-way to anywhere in South America for only a little extra in miles.
I’ve posted screen shots of double transit awards. It doesn’t seem to trip up the pricing engine.
What about taking a one-way to Europe after arriving in LAX? I’ve always wondered how many city pairs in Europe and Asia/Pacific can be routed through the US.
United website is pretty inconsistent so I can’t test it out. A few days ago I was able to price out an LAX – HKG//HGK – SYD//SYD – LAX trip at the price of a regular LAX-SYD roundtrip, but now it gives me errors.
…I found out the problem with the lax-hkg-syd-lax booking, for some reason United can’t find any HKG – SYD awards, even when searching for just that segment.
I’m flying IAD//OSAKA – OSAKA//DPS – DPS // IAD is there any way I can still add in a free one way when returning back on a united award?
No, you used up your one stopover in Osaka.
atxtravel nailed it. You may want to read this post: https://milevalu.wpengine.com/choosing-between-a-free-stopover-and-a-free-oneway-on-united-awards/
Wow…. This sounds crazy.
Won’t Lax-NRT-syd//syd-lax//-circle
Yield a higher MPM since we are taking a long route to Syd?
“Yield a higher MPM”? MPM is a set number based on the origin/destination city pair. LAX-SYD has an MPM no matter how you fly it.
My mind is officially blown. Are you actually flying that circle route or just demonstrating the awesomeness of United awards?
I’m not flying this one. I’d like to do this at some future point, but I don’t know when my next roundtrip international award on United would be. My next couple will probably be with Delta and US miles.
That is like the ultimate torture redemption for a mileage runner…. All those flights and hops and not a EQM to be earned in sight – gave me a good laugh!
HAHA–I can see how this would be awful from a mileage runner’s perspective.
Hi MileValue,
As usual, a somewhat of a brain twister but I’m trying my best to keep up!!
A few questions as I try to concoct my own following your article:
1. Using Ed’s example routing, DCA-BOS-YYZ-ORD-CLE-EWR // EWR-ZRH-IST, which leg is the MPM be calculated from? DCA – IST?? I’m always confused by how does one determine what’s considered the”outbound” or “inbound” portion of a round trip since we’re adding stopovers, layovers…etc that complicate things..
2. So if I apply the knowledge to create the following:
Preceding the main trip, adding many IAD but say FCO->IAD
Thanks much for the inspiring writings !!
Looks like my Question 2 was truncated:
2. Will this work?
– IAH-SFO-SLC-IAH (stopover) // IAH-LHR
– CDG (open jaw) – IAH
Thanks for your help!
Milevalue, please clarify few questions :
1) If I’m not confused, one stop-over is in addition to the destination ? If I intend to take Multi-city route, A-B-C-D-A with stopover in B and destination being C, is that a valid route ?
2) On United, I can see saver award availability for
individual segments of A-B-C-D-A when one-way option is selected,but when selecting multi-city some of those dont showup. If I can see a segment availability can I call up and ask agents to build the multi-city itinerary,since website doesnt allow it ?
city and
Multi-city search on United is broken. Call up. I don’t understand the first question. You do get one stopover. If you want the circle trip separated temporally from the other trip, you need that stopover at your home airport meaning all layovers on circle will be sub 24 hours.
I’m actually flying on one of these crazy award routings in May:
JFK-FRA LH I
FRA-BKK TG O
BKK-HND TG O
HND-ICN OZ O
ICN-HKG OZ I
Total mileage ~300 less than the max MPM +25% routing via Europe. 70,000 award miles OW, have yet to book return. Had a tough time convincing the agent it was legal…
wow so confusing. This one free rt means going from home town to europe or asia then getting a free rt in between the same time? I understand the free one way but not rt. Please advise thanks
Not good. See this –
http://boardingarea.com/thewanderingaramean/2013/10/uniteds-mileageplus-program-hidden-restrictions-friendly/