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I am a lodging cheapskate. My ideal trip length is four weeks, so hotel bills would add up quickly. Right now I haven’t been in the US since February, so I’ve had to come up with creative ways to sleep cheaply.
But just because I’m a cheapskate doesn’t mean I don’t want to stay at fancy hotels sometimes too. I’m jealous that Rookie Alli has two nights at any Hilton worldwide. I have my own two free nights at Hyatts worldwide that I’ll be sure to use somewhere way outside my price range.
There is a third way, though, between the extremes of free ultra-luxury and cheap adequate accommodation: under-categorized hotels are a fantastic value play.
Free nights at hotels cost a certain number of points that are decided by which category a hotel places the hotel into. For instance, a Category 1 Hilton costs 5,000 points for a free night. A Category 10 Hilton costs up to 95,000 points for a free night.
The number of points needed generally tracks the quality, location, and price of the hotel, but some hotels are under-categorized and represent fantastic value with points.
Last night I stayed in one such hotel, the DoubleTree Kuala Lumpur, which is a Hilton Category 2 property that costs only 10k Hilton points per night.
Continue for my review with photos of the DoubleTree Kuala Lumpur and a rundown of all the freebies I got. What hotel award charts might have sweet spots? What are the best value free nights you’ve gotten?
The DoubleTree Kuala Lumpur is conveniently located about 10 minutes walking from the stunning Petronas Towers and KLCC Park.
I arrived at 10 AM, hoping to check in five hours early. When I handed the front desk agent my passport and Hilton Gold card, she sent me to the 34th floor Executive Lounge to check in, but not before handing me a signature warm cookie.
The cookie was warm, though not soft, but still a nice way to check in!
While I assume the top-floor check in is designed to be a perk, I found it a bit annoying, since I just wanted to get to a room and take a nap.
When I got to the top floor, I was promptly checked in. There was a hot breakfast spread still available, which I was offered, but I declined since I had just eaten quite a bit at the Malaysia Airlines lounge. I did think it was a nice touch to be offered breakfast when I hadn’t stayed the night at the hotel.
I headed down five floors to find my simple, but spacious and pleasant room.
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On the bedside table were two complimentary bottles of water.
A few moments after my arrival the doorbell rang, and I was presented a complimentary fruit plate and cake.
The fruit plate was excessive for one person staying one night, and I felt bad having only one apple.
The only other feature of note in the room was the “pillow menu,” from which I didn’t order anything. The bed and pillow provided were comfortable enough as is. In fact, I promptly took a six hour nap.
I woke up in time for the 5:30 – 7:30 PM complimentary cocktails in the lounge.
The two-hour happy hour was a nice touch in Kuala Lumpur, where sin taxes make alcohol quite pricey for a developing country.
But even better was a concurrent hot dinner buffet that featured chicken wings, potato wedges, samosas, and coconut rice. I saved myself a meal out with the delicious food on offer.
The next morning, I woke up in time for the free hot breakfast and feasted on baked beans, chicken curry, rice, noodles, hummus, pita, and cheese.
That means, that I got all this for free:
- breakfast
- dinner
- in-room water
- in-room fruit plate
- happy hour
- hot cookie
- internet
- five-hour-early check in
And I spent only 10k Hilton points on the room. I value Hilton points at 0.4 cents at most, so that is $40 worth of points, for a room that goes for about $107.
Now, in fairness, all of my freebies except for the cookie and early check in were because of my Gold Status with Hilton. But I got that status for free by entering a Visa Infinite credit card number on a promo page. (That deal is now dead.) I have SPG Gold Status from having an American Express Platinum Card. I have top-tier Le Accor hotel status from signing up for it.
You can even get Hilton Gold Status for as long as you hold the Citi® Hilton HHonors™ Reserve Card which comes with two free nights at Hiltons worldwide after meeting the minimum spending requirement.
My point is that hotel status is very easy to get for free, so considering status freebies is reasonable when determining the value of a room.
What Would a Hotel Chart Value Sweet Spot Look Like
I think any time you can get an awesome hotel for under $50 worth of points that’s a sweet spot. Or if you can get a hotel for a third or a half of it’s going rate, that’s a sweet spot.
For the dollar value of the points used, I’d use either their purchase price or my valuation of them.
I’d also factor into the sweet-spot-ness the quality and quantity of the freebies the hotel provides. Another important factor is how easy it is to earn status to be used for freebies on award stays.
What Charts Are Likely to Have Sweet Spots
Charts that have award levels that use few points or charts that rely on very low-value points should both have sweet spots.
An example of a chart with low-point award levels would be the Starwood chart with free nights for as little as 2,000 points.
An example of a chart that uses low value points would be the Choice Privileges chart. I bought those points during Daily Getaways for 0.39 cents.
Let’s look at a few programs to see where the sweet spots might be.
Hyatt
I value Hyatt points at about 1.5 cents each. Realistically I’d get most of my Hyatt points by transferring in Ultimate Rewards, which I value at 2 cents each. That means the value on the Hyatt chart probably isn’t on the low end, where Category 1 hotels cost 6k points ($90 at my valuation.)
But Category 5 and Category 6 hotels cost only 18k and 22k points, $270 or $330, which can be a small fraction of the $1k+ cash price for the rooms.
Hilton
I value Hilton points at 0.4 cents. Category 1 rooms go for 5k points, which is $20 worth of points to me. Unfortunately most of them seem to be in Mexico. Category 2 hotels are 10k points ($40 to me) and are in more varied locations.
SPG
Weekend nights at Category 1 hotels go for 2k points and Category 2 hotels go for 3k points on the weekend. Too bad Starpoints are the most valuable points out there at 2.5 cents each, so that’s $50 or $75 in value.
Others
I’m intrigued by 9k Category 1 nights on the Club Carlson chart, especially when I saw the Radisson Blu in Budapest is on that list. That’s only about $36 worth of points to me.
PointBreaks from IHG are the ultimate sweet spot at 5k points (maximum $35) per night, though the rest of the chart isn’t great, starting at 10k points a night.
What Hotels Are Actually Sweet Spots?
More valuable than my speculating, what hotels have you stayed at that you thought were a steal in terms of the points needed for a free night? Why?
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Great post! Any deals in SIN?
I have been milking the low cat 2 SPG properties out near LAX, Santa Barbara and San Diego. Couldn’t believe many of those properties had award nights and cash+pt nights available over Christmas. The going rate wasn’t very high but still got 3+ CPM out of spg points.
The best redemption I made was for graduation weekend here in Boston. Generally any weekend in May in Boston is graduation weekend so hotel prices are through the roof here. I got a low cat 2 redemption (3k) about 20 miles away from Boston. Going rate was 160 a night but award nights were wide open. Got an upgrade to a junior suite as well. Did it for two nights. Because of PLT status, I got them free snacks at happy hour, free coffee/cappuccino round the clock and free breakfast as well. Well worth it.
One minor correction: Hyatt category 1 hotels are 5K points. Thanks as always for your great blog.
“But even better was a concurrent hot dinner buffet that featured chicken wings, potato wedges, samosas, and coconut rice”- How did you manage to get free dinner?
During drinks they have hot and cold food options available.
How about writing more about KL? I mean a cookie picture is great, but I would rather see more practical info about KL, what you did, what you saw, did you find something unusual? Where did you eat? Did you discover any great viewpoints to photograph? Any tips about getting a cab, they have some terrible reputation. Any info about the airport? Anything would be great.
Agree completely…sometimes the benefits you get from these hotels are more valuable than the price of the hotel, especially if you have larger groups…
I booked 2 nights x 3 rooms for our party of 11 at the DoubleTree Kuala Lumpur for October, 2013 (60,000 Hhonors points total for the 3 rooms for 2 nights). My Gold Status (from Hilton Reserve Card), my wife’s Gold Status (from entering Visa Infinite card on promo page and changing address to Australia…we actually live in Perth, so it was on the up) will get our entire party (11 people) all the benefits you described above. The hotel is fairly inexpensive anyway, but free is always good and free food, especially quality buffet breakfasts can be expensive.
I find the Sheraton Hanoi for 3,000 SPG Points to be a good value as well. We stayed there for 3 nights in October, 2012 and are returning for 1 night in October, 2013. You can book a club room for 4,500 points (if you don’t have SPG elite status, this is your best option to get the free breakfast, free soft drinks in the lounge all day, canapes during happy hour 5-7pm. They have a pretty nice breakfast spread. Depending on the size of your party (asume 2 adults, 1 child per room means the extra 1,500 SPG points which you value at 2.2 cents each or ~$33 gets you buffet breakfast for 3, appetizers/mini dinner for 3, soft drinks all day, etc. – a pretty good deal even in Hanoi where things are relatively inexpensive).
Another good one in SE Asia looks to be the Hanoi Hilton Garden Inn for 10,000 Hhonors points each room (we booked 1 night x 3 rooms for our party for 30,000 points in October)…same benefits as the DoubleTree KL (free breakfast buffet, canapes during happy hour, soft drinks during the day). Have never stayed here before, but finding value in Hilton Hhonors has become difficult and you really can’t go wrong with a 10,000 point per night hotel that gives those types of benefits to Gold members.
Also staying at the Hyatt DaNang (Vietnam) for 3 nights (we stayed here in October 2012 for 3 nights – beautiful property…staying 3 nights x 3 rooms this October)…burning through some capital one points (at 1 cent a piece) to pay for the rooms since I didn’t want to spend 12,000 Gold Passport points on a $150/night room, but used 3,000 Hyatt points per room to upgrade the rooms to Ocean suites that give you the better room, the free breakfast, canapes, drinks all day, private pool, etc. (total of 9,000 points to upgrade the 3 rooms). Hyatt upgrades are awesome because the 3,000 points is not per night, but per STAY, so when you stay longer, you get more value from your points on the upgrade (since we are staying 3 nights, we are effectively upgrading the room and adding all of those benefits for 1,000 GP points per night.
The Renaissance (Marriott) in Bangkok at 20,000 points is good value if you can pull off elite status with Marriott (we did a platinum challenge – that we failed at since we didn’t get the 9 nights in 3 months, but it did get us benefits for 3 nights at this hotel in May, 2013 and 3 nights at The Stones Hotel in Legian, Bali near Kuta Beach in May, 2013). Club lounge was awesome with breakfast, morning tea, high tea, afternoon tea, and happy hour (canapes), and free soft drinks all day. It seemed like they were constantly serving food there. It’s right near public transport, so that became pretty valuable as well (no fighting traffic in Taxis in Bangkok).
Carlson has three hotels in Reykjavik, two Radissons at 44K points each and one Park Inn at 9K. There’s not that much difference in the cash price for the Park Inn. You can easily beat 2 cents per point at this hotel and, with the Club Carlson credit-card last-night free deal you can get close to 5 cents. That’s for points that can be purchase outright for about half a cent each.
If you like Iceland, you’ll love Fresno. Seriously, Fresno is only 60-90 minutes from Sequoia/Kings Canyon and Yosemite National Parks, and the Park Inn by Radisson Fresno is a very reasonable property that also costs 9,000 point/night (or per two nights if you have the CC).
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The Doubletree in KL is an awesome place. Been there a few times now. It’s one of those places I’d consider being much longer. Unfortunately Keith who ran the Executive Lounge has left – he was a real help.
The Le Meridien Siem Reap was a great deal but changed category last year.
Have you been to the Le Meridien Dead Sea in Israel? Charges $600 but is/was a category 1 hotel 🙂
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