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I wish Qantas released a ton of Business and First Class between the United States and Australia. Qantas flies directly from Los Angeles to Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane plus from Dallas to Sydney. (Qantas also operates a tag flight from Los Angeles to New York that can only be booked as part of a trip to/from Australia.)
The flights to Sydney and Melbourne are on A380s.
- Here is my review of Qantas Business Class on the A380.
- I haven’t flown First Class on the Qantas A380, but it looks awesome with a fully flat bed and dining space for two at each seat.
Beyond the nice product and the convenient schedule to and within Australia, the main reason I wish Qantas released a ton of Business and First Class award space is that Qantas award space can be booked cheaply with American Airlines miles and can be searched on aa.com. American charges:
- 37,500 American Airlines miles each way in economy
- 62,500 American Airlines miles each way in Business
- 72,500 American Airlines miles each way in First
That’s barely more than American charges to go to Europe even though Australia is about twice as far from the United States. Plus American Airlines miles are super easy to get at the moment.
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Unfortunately as much as I wish for plentiful Qantas premium awards, the reality is very different.
Award Space Picture
Qantas releases its award space 355 days out. At that point, the space is bookable with Qantas miles and British Airways Avios. Unfortunately, the cost with these types of miles is outrageous.
British Airways charges:
- 50,000 Avios each way in economy
- 100,000 Avios each way in Business
- 150,000 Avios each way in First
Plus taxes plus $390 in fuel surcharges.
Since First Class is more than double the price with Avios compared to AAdvantage miles, obviously you’d want to wait until 330 days out when American Airlines awards become bookable. Unfortunately a lot of the space that is released at 355 days out is gone by 330 days out, never to be replaced.
For instance, this amazing First Class award seat on December 29 from Los Angeles to Melbourne, with possibly connections to Sydney to arrive the morning of the fireworks, will almost certainly not be around in three more weeks to book with American Airlines miles.
But some space does creep through to American Airlines miles. Specifically here is the space I found 10 hours ago. Note that almost all of it is 320+ days out.
Los Angeles to Sydney
1 Business Class Seat and 0 First Class Seats
Sydney to Los Angeles
1 Business Class seats and 0 First Class seats
Los Angeles to Melbourne
2 Business Class seats and 1 First Class seats
Melbourne to Los Angeles
2 Business Class seats and 1 First Class seats
Dallas to Sydney
0 Business and First Class seats in both directions
Los Angeles to Brisbane
Operated by a 747 without First Class, not an A380
The most Business Class space, maybe 4 days in each direction
Update
All those calendars are 10 hours old. The only change I’ve noticed in the interim is that the First Class seat from Los Angeles to Melbourne disappeared, but on the same day a first class seat from Los Angeles to Sydney appeared.
Bottom Lines
- If you want to fly in a premium cabin to Australia, collect Delta miles to fly Virgin Australia (80,000 miles each way in Business Class.) Full post on Virgin Australia award availability.
- If you want to fly Qantas Business or First Class to Australia with American Airlines miles, try to book around 330 days out, and be prepared for not much space.
- If you want to fly Qantas First Class on the A380, try to book it between London and Dubai (40,000 AA miles one way), or London and Sydney (80,000 AA miles one way). Both of these options have a lot more award space than Qantas’ American flights.
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[…] Qantas releases some space 355 days out to its own mileage program and British Airways, which charges way too many miles plus fuel surcharges for the space. By the time the award space becomes available to American Airlines miles–330 days out–a lot of it is gone. What’s left is cheap though. See today’s full post on Qantas award space. […]
[…] Qantas releases some space 355 days out to its own mileage program and British Airways, which charges way too many miles plus fuel surcharges for the space. By the time the award space becomes available to American Airlines miles–330 days out–a lot of it is gone. What’s left is cheap though. See today’s full post on Qantas award space. […]
or use Alaskan awards to book 355 days out.
You can only book 331 days out with Alaska awards as far as I know. You used to be able to book farther out, but no more.
or use Alaskan awards to book 355 days out.
You can only book 331 days out with Alaska awards as far as I know. You used to be able to book farther out, but no more.
Are you saying Alaska books 331 days out, vs A A 330?
They both book 331 out. My mistake.
Are you saying Alaska books 331 days out, vs A A 330?
They both book 331 out. My mistake.
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