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Here is just how easy and how essential it is to search for awards segment-by-segment.
My friend is visiting me in Belgrade, Serbia and wants to fly home to Los Angeles next week, so we were searching for an award for him with United miles, which are definitely the best miles between the United States and Europe.
Unfortunately the only awards available are in Business Class, and he has more time than money or miles.
I’d personally fly this award in flat bed Business Class for 57,500 United miles + $78. (I would get out of the $75 close in ticketing fee with this trick.)
But he needed an economy award, so we moved onto segment-by-segment searching. The idea is that there are legal itineraries you can book that don’t show up with a simple search because they have too many segments or too long of layovers (often overnight) for the computer to catch.
You can literally search one segment at a time, starting with potential transatlantic route. I didn’t do that. I just searched from Belgrade to United’s hubs in the Eastern United States. I started with Newark.
I found an economy award to Newark, but the next Saver economy award space from Newark to Los Angeles was the next morning.
Those four segments are a legal award that would cost 30,000 United miles plus taxes, but I wanted to see if we could get him a more convenient itinerary.
I searched Belgrade to Washington-Dulles. I found this itinerary…
…and six hours later there is space from Dulles to Los Angeles.
This isn’t the best itinerary ever, since there are two layovers of 10 total hours, but it is legal, it costs 30,000 United miles, and it avoids an overnight in transit. For my friend, it is a win!
Booking Segment-by-Segment Awards
To book segment-by-segment awards, note the date, cabin, and flight number of each segment. Call the airline whose miles you want to use, and feed the agent that information.
In this case, to save the $25 phone fee and $75 close in fee, we’ll do something a little different. We’ll book a random Belgrade to Los Angeles itinerary for far in the future. Something like this:
Then we’ll immediately call in, and say “Hey I just booked an award an hour ago, and I want to change the date.”
Changes or cancellations are free within 24 hours.
Then we’ll read out the date, cabin, and flight number of the flights we want. There is no phone fee with this method. Very probably the agent will forget to add the $75 close in fee.
Bottom Line
Just because your simple search shows no award space doesn’t mean there is no award space. Try segment-by-segment searching.
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FYI, TK (via IST) can also be a great way to get back from BEG to USA. BEG-IST is usually wide open, and TK has decent award space as well. Enjoy Belgrade despite the crazy weather!
Good tip. Didn’t check that route. It’s been 100 degrees for a week and we have at least a week more of it. I almost died (possibly literally) today running 4 km.
My sister lives there…she said the same thing! Ugh!
FYI, TK (via IST) can also be a great way to get back from BEG to USA. BEG-IST is usually wide open, and TK has decent award space as well. Enjoy Belgrade despite the crazy weather!
Good tip. Didn’t check that route. It’s been 100 degrees for a week and we have at least a week more of it. I almost died (possibly literally) today running 4 km.
My sister lives there…she said the same thing! Ugh!
Another way would be to book Belgrade-DC online, then call to add the DC to LA segment. (In this case your method is better, because it hopefully avoids the close-in booking fee. My method works well when I want to book a stopover on a round trip, but the computer won’t book the complete itinerary online, or won’t show the most convenient flights.)
Yep that’s normally fine, just didn’t do it since we are under 3 weeks to departure.
Another way would be to book Belgrade-DC online, then call to add the DC to LA segment. (In this case your method is better, because it hopefully avoids the close-in booking fee. My method works well when I want to book a stopover on a round trip, but the computer won’t book the complete itinerary online, or won’t show the most convenient flights.)
Yep that’s normally fine, just didn’t do it since we are under 3 weeks to departure.
Once you find the segments, can you use the multiple destinations search and book the award online?
Nope. Give it a try.
Once you find the segments, can you use the multiple destinations search and book the award online?
Nope. Give it a try.
You state United award ticket “are definitely the best miles between the United States and Europe.” But aren’t AA Super Saver’s at 20,000 miles an even better deal?
Yes, there are awards that use fewer miles like AA off peak awards and Air France Flying Blue promo awards, but United miles have access to by far the most award space from the most partners. Far more than those types of awards. (Plus it is not off peak time right now, so AA awards would cost 30k miles, and none existed at the price for my friend’s dates.)
You state United award ticket “are definitely the best miles between the United States and Europe.” But aren’t AA Super Saver’s at 20,000 miles an even better deal?
Yes, there are awards that use fewer miles like AA off peak awards and Air France Flying Blue promo awards, but United miles have access to by far the most award space from the most partners. Far more than those types of awards. (Plus it is not off peak time right now, so AA awards would cost 30k miles, and none existed at the price for my friend’s dates.)
I used the call in method to avoid a $75 late call in fee on a trip from Houston to Guatemala City. The agent was incompetent, I gave her the segment by segment flight information but she couldn’t find the space- because she was on the wrong date, LOL! Eventually I got my message across and she found the space on the day I wanted to travel.
But she forgot to charge me the $75 fee, so no problema.
Nice! We just got this ticketed without the $75 fee also.
I used the call in method to avoid a $75 late call in fee on a trip from Houston to Guatemala City. The agent was incompetent, I gave her the segment by segment flight information but she couldn’t find the space- because she was on the wrong date, LOL! Eventually I got my message across and she found the space on the day I wanted to travel.
But she forgot to charge me the $75 fee, so no problema.
Nice! We just got this ticketed without the $75 fee also.
Scott, I am trying to book a United Mileage plus ticket using the following itinerary but keep getting famous error at the last page. I wanted to check with you if this itinerary is valid before I call United and have them book this over the phone.
FRA -> JED (stopover in Jeddah for a week)
JED -> BOM (stopover in BOM for 2 weeks)
HYD -> FRA (return to FRA)
Looks good to me.
Scott, I am trying to book a United Mileage plus ticket using the following itinerary but keep getting famous error at the last page. I wanted to check with you if this itinerary is valid before I call United and have them book this over the phone.
FRA -> JED (stopover in Jeddah for a week)
JED -> BOM (stopover in BOM for 2 weeks)
HYD -> FRA (return to FRA)
Looks good to me.
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