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Yesterday I posted “Not April Fools: Delta Has the Best Award Space to Asia I’ve Ever Seen.”
I showed screen shots of how incredibly available–every day for months–Saver award space was on Delta flights from the west coast to Asia. And I said: “Delta currently has some of the best award space I’ve ever seen on any airline on international routes on almost all of its west-coast-to-Asia routes for all of 2014.”
What I didn’t say is that all the screen shots were for one-passenger searches. Almost no Delta flights from the west coast to Asia have two Saver award seats in business or economy.
The omission inspired Gary Leff to write Delta Is Great for Award Availability If You Don’t Like Your Spouse. The post is a bit “glass half empty” for my taste, trying to find problems related to award availability instead of solutions.
Let me offer two solutions to the problem:
Problem: Delta flights from the west coast to Asia only have one Saver award seat per cabin on most days in 2014. That isn’t great for couples traveling together.
Solution #1: Book one economy roundtrip and one business class roundtrip on the same flights. Or you can even book one roundtrip with a business outbound and economy return and one roundtrip with an economy outbound and business class return.
Solution #2: Collect miles that can book routes with incredible award space for 2+ people to Asia.
Full glass-half-full details on both solutions after the jump!
Solution #1: Book one economy roundtrip and one business class roundtrip on the same flights.
Gary mentions booking one award at the Saver level and one at the Standard level:
You can of course book one ticket at the low award price and a second at the medium (more expensive) level where that’s available.
For travel June 1, 2014 or later, that would run you 380k Delta miles for two roundtrips in business class from the US to Northern Asia–140k for one at the Saver level and 240k for one at the Standard level.
I’d propose a different way to get a couple on the same flights: book one economy roundtrip and one business class roundtrip on the same flights.
That would cost 190k miles for travel before June 1 and 210k miles for travel after June 1.
To more equitably divide the business class time, you can even book one roundtrip with an outbound in business and return in economy and the other roundtrip with the opposite cabins. That way you both get one long leg in a flat bed. Such mix-and-match roundtrips are 95k/105k miles for travel before/after June 1.
To book a mix-and-match award, perform a one-passenger search and select that your dates are flexible to bring up the award calendar.
Set one calendar to Economy and the other to First/Business.
Select your flights, and you should–assuming no errors from delta.com–come to a screen charging you half the roundtrip economy price plus half the roundtrip business class price.
Put the first mix-and-match on hold with the Delta.com hold trick that MileValue broke last week, and repeat the process with the second mix-and-match award, selecting the same flights but opposite cabins as the first award.
This solution is not for you if you need to sit next to your companion.
This solution also will give one of you lounge access each direction, but not the other since international business class awards include lounge access. Maybe one person can sneak out a little food. 😉
For me, neither of these inconveniences is very problematic. If they’re deal breakers for you, consider solution #2.
Solution #2: Collect miles that can book routes with incredible award space for 2+ people to Asia.
Eleven days ago, Bill wrote about fantastic business and first class award space on Air China flights, a fantastic product bookable with United miles. He showed amazing award space for up to four people in the same cabin on the same flight.
Here’s the current award space from San Francisco to Beijing for two people on direct flights with United miles. Almost every day in September and October has 2+ seats in business or first class on a direct flight, and most days have the same for economy class.
Space is abundant in business class and first class on the Air China flight and wide open on the United flight too.
Last year, I wrote about fantastic business class award space from the US to Taiwan and beyond on EVA Airlines with United miles.
This July and August–though not this Spring–award space is wide open on EVA flights from Los Angeles to Taipei for two passengers in economy and business class.
Tahsir reviewed the business class, and it looks to be one of the very best in the world.
How about with American Airlines miles?
Chicago to Shanghai has great space in First Class for a couple that can depart Tuesday through Thursday.
The Shanghai to Chicago flight has even more widely available First Class space for a couple. I reviewed American Airlines First Class here. It was plenty comfortable for me to catch a lot of sleep, though I wouldn’t describe it as a truly aspirational product.
Getting the Miles
Flights in this post are bookable with Delta, American, United, and US Airways miles. Depending on the route that caught your eye, go check The Best Cards to Earn United, American, Delta, US Airways, Alaska, Southwest, and British Airways Miles.
Recap
I’m sorry for omitting that the fantastic west-coast-to-Asia award space on Delta flights for all of 2014 in economy and business class is for one passenger per cabin per flight only. If you mainly travel solo like I do, you can completely ignore this post and have your pick of the litter on Delta flights from the west coast to Asia.
Gary was right to point out my omission.
If you usually travel with a companion, I have two solutions to the Delta space problem:
- Travel on the same flights in different cabins.
- Collect miles for flights that do have incredible award space for two passengers in the same cabin like the three mentioned in this post.
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Better. Now this is more your original style, practical problem solving.
Scott, I like your blog as you have some unique crazy ideas. I do read about exotic cars or vacations that I can not afford because of money or time reasons. Nevertheless, keep posting your unique ideas (or routings via Vladivostok ;-)), if you think it is creative, even it will only help a couple people to actually travel perhaps inspire hundreds to do something similar. Pease include the small prints, cause people will call you out.
Cmon. You really think one person in coach and one in business is what is meant by “flying together”? My SO would kill me if I did that – or else she’d want the biz seat both directions and that wouldn’t happen! In such a case, we would choose an airline/itinerary that would allow us to fly together – and that means in same cabin with nearby seats (we may split up in F to get window seats – often too private to have conversation if window/middle if that is available)
+1. It is absolutely a no go for my wife and I to travel in separate classes of service. Thanks for discussing alternatives, as limited as they are.
I understand that many people would not sit in different cabins. To me it’s no big deal because many F seats are not near each other, and I’d be fine with those. I figure there’s no difference being 15 or 150 ft away on a plane because in neither case will I talk to my companion very much.
But if sitting in the same cabin is important to you, there are ways to do it outlined in this post.
“I’d propose a different way to get a couple on the same flights: book one economy roundtrip and one business class roundtrip on the same flights.”
You obviously are not married, and perhaps have never had a girlfriend/boyfriend/partner. Nuff said.
/Vladivostok.
I have booked myself in coach and my husband in business /first on the same flight several times, either to preserve miles or to solve award seat availability issues. And no, it’s not because we don’t like each other or because he’s a jerk – I’m generally perfectly fine flying in coach, and the extra points required to fly in a premium cabin are generally not worth it to me. (And when we are about to be together 24/7 for a couple of weeks on vacation, sitting separately on a flight when I am reading, and he is watching movies or sleeping, the whole time anyway is not a big deal to us).
Similarly, we have traveled with our two kids a couple of times by booking two coach seats and two business seats, and it’s worked out great (the kids take turns sitting in the premium seat) – it’s tough to find 4 award seats in one cabin on a lot of flights.
For me it wouldn’t be a big deal, especially if I was the one getting the premium cabin. 😉
That’s sure nice of you.
Appreciate you posting an addendum to yesterday’s post.
[…] point balances. Unlike folks who really like to fly solo and think it is amazing when they can find one seat, or those who prefer global First Class jet setting, family travel is a bit more […]
Couples can trade seats on the return flight. If one sits in first/business class the first time, he/she takes coach upon return.
With the United screen above, what is the difference between Saver Award Economy (yellow block) and Saver Award Economy in Green block? How many Saver Award Economy seats do United and other airlines usually release per flight?
There is no difference between the possible economy seats available on yellow and green days. The difference between yellow and green is that green ALSO has business or first class space available.
There is no “usually” when it comes to number of award seats per flight. Airlines would prefer to sell every seat for cash. They only want to release seats they don’t expect to sell. On some flights, that is 9+ seats. On some flights, zero. On some flights, one or two. Plus the number of award seats on a flight changes over time as the airline sees how the flight is selling.