MileValue is part of an affiliate sales network and receives compensation for sending traffic to partner sites, such as CreditCards.com. This compensation may impact how and where links appear on this site. This site does not include all financial companies or all available financial offers. Terms apply to American Express benefits and offers. Enrollment may be required for select American Express benefits and offers. Visit americanexpress.com to learn more.
Note: Some of the offers mentioned below may have changed or are no longer be available. You can view current offers here.
I spent five hours booking a roundtrip from Buenos Aires to Bariloche this week. But at least I avoided an hour and a half in taxis to pick up paper tickets! HUH!?
Bariloche is 851 miles to the southwest of Buenos Aires as the plane flies.
I decided to book a last-second economy award for two because Bariloche is on the northern edge of Patagonia, and summer is over. I needed to get there quickly if I wanted to enjoy biking and hiking instead of skiing and snowboarding.
The route from Aeroparque–Buenos Aires’s domestic airport–to Bariloche is served by two carriers: LAN Argentina and Aerolineas Argentinas.
LAN with Avios
My first thought was to use Avios to book LAN flights. The number of Avios needed for an award depends on the distance, and this award would cost 15,000 Avios per person roundtrip.
I tried to search ba.com for space, but I ran into the same problem as I detailed for intra-Peru space. For whatever reason, ba.com doesn’t think it has any partners that fly to BRC, so I couldn’t input the airport code. That meant I couldn’t perform the search. (No, the solution I laid out for Peru didn’t work.)
I called British Airways at 800-AIRWAYS. I told the agent I wanted to fly LAN Argentina from AEP to BRC. She told me that British Airways had no partners that flew that route.
When I said LAN Argentina flew the route, she informed me that British Airways “partners with lan.com,” not LAN Argentina. A lot of phone agents for a lot of airlines are clueless, but saying your airline partners with a website not an airline is a new one from a phone agent. 🙂
I pointed out that British Airways lists LAN Argentina as a partner on its partner page, and LAN Argentina flies the route.
But I wasn’t sure how to talk her through booking LAN Argentina, so I hung up and called back. The second agent was competent, and found a few flights to choose from on my outbound and return dates.
She said the price was 15,000 Avios and $99 per person. I asked her to waive the $25 phone fee since the award wasn’t bookable online, and she said she had, and that it was still $99 per person. I asked for a breakdown, and she said it was $25 fuel surcharges and $74 in taxes.
I found that perplexing because the breakdown on the ITA Matrix was only about 300 pesos in taxes. I didn’t push the issue, though, because currency issues in Argentina are difficult. Maybe the 300 pesos was $60, and I was on the hook for 20% more because of a new tax on foreigners buying travel.
I thanked the agent and hung up. I wanted to check out my other option.
Aerolineas Argentinas with SkyMiles
I tried to search for Aerolineas space on airfrance.us. Here’s a post on how to use airfrance.us to look for SkyTeam space. I know airfrance.us shows Aerolineas award space on its one route to the USA.
But Air France’s site doesn’t display Bariloche as a city option, so I couldn’t search there. I headed to ExpertFlyer, which I explained how to use here.
Space was excellent, showing award space several flights a day. Note that Delta has access to T space, not X space.
I called Delta at 800-323-2323 and told the agent my airports and dates and told her that I had my flights picked out. She quickly found the flights and informed me the cost would be 20,000 SkyMiles and $37.80 per person. I asked if that included a phone fee, which she said it did. I asked her to ask a supervisor to waive the fee, since the award cannot be ticketed on Delta.com. She came back a minute later and said the fee would be waived.
The new cost was 20,000 SkyMiles and $12.80 per person.
Which is better for intra-Argentina travel: Avios or SkyMiles?
That’s a poorly worded question. It depends on the route. SkyMiles will always charge 20,000 miles roundtrip plus minimal taxes. LAN flights with Avios will charge more cash and a miles price between 9,000 and 20,000 Avios roundtrip since the awards are based on the distance of the flights and Argentina is the 8th largest country in the world.
For each award where you have an option on Aerolineas Argentinas, LAN, and as a cash ticket, you should determine the cost of each, and which one you consider cheapest based on your mile values.
For me, the cheapest cash tickets would have been $600 per person. The Avios ticket was 15,000 Avios + $99. The SkyMiles ticket was 20,000 miles + $12.
I value Avios at 1.7 cents and SkyMiles at 1.22 cents. That makes the Avios redemption “cost” $354 (.017 * 15,000 + 99) and the SkyMiles redemption $256 (.0122 * 20,000 + 12).
From my valuations, I think only the shortest hops of under 650 miles would be a better deal with Avios intra-Argentina.
Ticketing the SkyMiles Award
I called Delta back and got the same award priced at 20,000 miles + $12 per person again. When it got time to give the credit card information, the agent panicked and put me on hold. She came back with some strange news: Aerolineas Argentinas wouldn’t let Delta issue an electronic ticket. I needed to go to an airport with Delta staff to have a paper ticket issued.
I hung up and called back several times getting the same information.
I want to spread this information because with some forewarning, this could be converted into only a minor inconvenience. If you can call Delta and put your Aerolineas Argentinas award on hold a few days before your trip to Argentina, you can then ticket it at an airport that Delta serves, which will probably include every airport you fly through on the way to Argentina.
But since I was already in Buenos Aires, it would have been very inconvenient and around $40 for a roundtrip taxi to the international airport (EZE). That combined with the fact that I wasn’t sure ticketing would go smoothly made me bite the bullet and purchase the more expensive Avios ticket.
Note that last week The Points Guy’s managing editor published a very different account of ticketing an Aerolineas Argentinas award intra-Argentina with SkyMiles. I can only attribute the differences to him booking the award a few weeks before me, and Aerolineas Argentinas having changed its policy in the meantime.
Ticketing the Avios Award
I called British Airways and had the Avios award ticketed in ten minutes. The British Airways confirmation number was recognizable by LAN, so online check in at LAN.com was easy the day of our flight.
LAN has a great baggage policy of 50 lbs of free checked bag per person on these flights, which we didn’t need. LAN also had a pleasant flying experience with free Havanna-branded–a recognizable snack brand here–snack boxes on the two hour flight.
Recap
I looked at all my options to get down to Bariloche in a hurry before it got too cold. Cash tickets at $600 per person were out. Luckily Delta and British Airways both have award partners that fly the route with plenty of award space. Plus neither program charges fees for ticketing awards at the last minute.
The Delta award on Aerolineas Argentinas was a better deal, but would have required an expensive and time consuming trip to the nearest Delta agents at Ministro Pistarini airport to get a paper ticket!
For that reason, I went with the Avios award and flew LAN to Bariloche. Based on my time in Bariloche so far, this award has definitely been worth it!
Just getting started in the world of points and miles? The Chase Sapphire Preferred is the best card for you to start with.
With a bonus of 60,000 points after $4,000 spend in the first 3 months, 5x points on travel booked through the Chase Travel℠ and 3x points on restaurants, streaming services, and online groceries (excluding Target, Walmart, and wholesale clubs), this card truly cannot be beat for getting started!
Editorial Disclaimer: The editorial content is not provided or commissioned by the credit card issuers. Opinions expressed here are the author’s alone, not those of the credit card issuers, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by the credit card issuers.
The comments section below is not provided or commissioned by the bank advertiser. Responses have not been reviewed, approved, or otherwise endorsed by the bank advertiser. It is not the bank advertiser’s responsibility to ensure all questions are answered.
Did you consider the Avios + cash option? I just booked 2 one-way tickets from AEP to BRC for 7500 Avios and $199 (spending $100 to save 7500 Avios).
Since you value Avios at 1.7 cents it seems this would reduce the redemption “cost” of your trip.
A few years ago a local bus ticket to EZE from downtown cost me about 35 cents. Yes, with my luggage. A shuttle service (faster) cost only a few dollars.
I took the bus six years ago, and it took three hours. A shuttle would have been cheaper. It didn’t even cross my mind because I wanted the tickets right then.
Another option is to transfer Starwood to LANPass and use their kilometers to book a flight.
It’s a fixed 24,000 kilometers for southern South America flights, and it takes 12000 Starpoints, since the transfer ratio is 1:2.
Anyone tried this? I’m curious how long the transfer takes.
[…] and I recently decided to use Avios to fly LAN from Buenos Aires to Bariloche for five days. The southern hemisphere has just entered fall. In Patagonia, that means cold weather […]
Wondering if you might have any insight:
I’m trying to fly from SCL to IGR (routing through AEP) using Delta Skymiles, and flying on Aerolineas Argentinas. The T class availability (as shown on Expert Flyer) looks wide-open for the days I want to fly, August 9, from Santiago to Iguazu, and returning on August 11, from Iguazu to Santiago. It also shows as available on the Flying Blue site using 30,000 award miles roundtrip (alas, I only have Delta miles). Unfortunately when I called Delta yesterday, I was told it’s not possible to fly from Chile to Argentina on Aerolineas Argentinas. When I called back today, I was told there’s no availability for at least the whole month of August.
Any idea what may be up? Any strategies?
By the way, thanks for the guide to Buenos Aires. It was very helpful for my visit last month.
I don’t think either agent is right. I would call back again.
Third try this morning. Still no luck.
It worked on the 4th try! Waited a few days to call back, and now wide-open availability for August. I was also issued an e-ticket.
this is very valuable experience to me. Actually I am thinking to almost same routing with you.
My itinerary is SLA-IGR(via AEP) /IGR-SCL (via AEP). But I am wondering whether this route is available with Delta miles on Aerolineas Argentinas. Is it covered with 30,000miles?
Should be. Let us know your results.
[…] price did not include intra-Patagonia flights–for which Avios and Delta miles are great–or the other half of the airfare to Chicago or Honolulu. Those flights could be purchased […]
[…] is the best use of Avios because I take a lot of extended trips where I might need a flight between Buenos Aires and Bariloche, Sydney and Cairns, or Los Angeles and […]
[…] The diversity–mountains to oceans, subtropical to subpolar, glaciers to waterfalls–is matched by few countries. The distances are daunting–Argentina is the world’s eighth largest country–so be sure to use your miles to fly around. […]
[…] there are fuel surcharges on other LAN affiliates like LAN Argentina. See this post on intra-Argentina flights for more […]
[…] To get around Argentina, use British Airways Avios to fly LAN or Delta SkyMiles to fly Aerolineas Argentinas. […]
[…] is the best use of Avios because I take a lot of extended trips where I might need a flight between Buenos Aires and Bariloche, Sydney and Cairns, or Los Angeles and […]
[…] This leaves out how you get from Buenos Aires to the other Argentine cities you want to visit. You’d use paid flights or separate awards to book those flights. […]
[…] there are fuel surcharges on other LATAM affiliates like LATAM Argentina. See this post on intra-Argentina flights for more […]